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why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« on: September 28, 2016, 11:25:53 am »
just noticed it. ulx forums doesn't have favicon, but other directories do.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 12:02:10 pm »
It does?
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2016, 07:27:47 pm »
Firefox


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Chrome


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Microsoft Edge


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Internet Explorer (I'm not sure if explorer usess favicon)


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It hasn't had a favicon since I can remember. I've cleared cache on this PC just to ensure that if there was an issue it would hopefully be gone, and there still is no favicon. You guys could try clearing cache for ulyssessmod.net on chrome/firefox to see if the icon will disappear too.

Obviously this isn't really a big issue, and maybe by rare chance it is actually me. I'm just really bored, and felt like pointing it out.

After investigating more into it, I don't see any reference of <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/png" href="favicon.png"/> anywhere on this website
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2016, 10:33:10 pm »
Not sure why you aren't seeing it.. but it definitely does have one.


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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2016, 11:54:50 pm »

I concur.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 07:42:48 am »


Mind you, guys, favicons are cached. For quite some time.

Unless this was a recent change, however, I still see the favicon here on my school laptop on Chrome, which I only received a month ago. However, Apple is right in stating there is no direct link to the favicon file. And, more importantly, forums.ulyssesmod.net has no favicon.ico, but ulyssesmod.net itself does.

Apple, have you visited ulyssesmod.net yet? That's probably why your favicon is missing.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 01:34:31 pm »


Mind you, guys, favicons are cached. For quite some time.

Unless this was a recent change, however, I still see the favicon here on my school laptop on Chrome, which I only received a month ago. However, Apple is right in stating there is no direct link to the favicon file. And, more importantly, forums.ulyssesmod.net has no favicon.ico, but ulyssesmod.net itself does.

Apple, have you visited ulyssesmod.net yet? That's probably why your favicon is missing. Either way, as I said before, it's not that important, I just personally does not show.

I have, because when I type ulx in my url, it brings me to the homepage instead of forums every time. Favicons do not automatically assert themselves to a webpage anymore, if I remember.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 02:33:30 pm »
I have, because when I type ulx in my url, it brings me to the homepage instead of forums every time. Favicons do not automatically assert themselves to a webpage anymore, if I remember.

What do you mean by 'anymore'? I don't think there is any standard that governs how favicons are to be cached, so I highly doubt that any change to favicon caching would extend beyond one browser. Especially if said change happened recently.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016, 06:41:30 pm »


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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 07:30:41 pm »
What do you mean by 'anymore'? I don't think there is any standard that governs how favicons are to be cached, so I highly doubt that any change to favicon caching would extend beyond one browser. Especially if said change happened recently.

If my memory serves me correctly, favicon used to automatically become the websites icon, no need to make a html link to it, it just automatically did it. Not anymore though, it might just be the way webservers handle it, or not. Either way, ulx forums does not have a favicon.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 09:11:28 pm »
If my memory serves me correctly, favicon used to automatically become the websites icon, no need to make a html link to it, it just automatically did it. Not anymore though, it might just be the way webservers handle it, or not. Either way, ulx forums does not have a favicon.
Actually...
I just tested with my little Raspberry Pi server---Chrome still actively seeks out favicon.ico even when one isn't specified in the HTML.
Code: [Select]
192.168.1.254 - - [30/Sep/2016:23:08:08 -0500] "GET /favicon-test.html HTTP/1.1" 200 195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.143 Safari/537.36"
192.168.1.254 - - [30/Sep/2016:23:08:09 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 193 "http://108.79.33.202/favicon-test.html" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/53.0.2785.143 Safari/537.36"
The same applies for Firefox:
Code: [Select]
192.168.1.254 - - [30/Sep/2016:23:10:20 -0500] "GET /favicon-test.html HTTP/1.1" 200 195 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0"
192.168.1.254 - - [30/Sep/2016:23:10:20 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 136 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0"
192.168.1.254 - - [30/Sep/2016:23:10:20 -0500] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 136 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0"

The code I was using, if anyone's curious:
Code: HTML5
  1. <!DOCTYPE html>
  2. <html lang="en">
  3.         <head>
  4.                 <title>Hello, world!</title>
  5.         </head>
  6.         <body>
  7.                 <h1>Hello, world!</h1>
  8.                 <p>I exist solely to test if browsers automatically search for a favicon when loading a page.</p>
  9.         </body>
  10. </html>

But, yes. forums.ulyssesmod.net does not have a favicon.ico at its root, nor does the HTML link to it. ulyssesmod.net does, however. Yet, somehow, the majority of us still seem to have the favicon. I still have it after resetting my favicon cache, and browsing data.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2016, 09:16:12 pm by Bytewave »
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2016, 09:31:17 pm »
Who's using https vs http?
Is that making a difference? (Not for me)
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2016, 09:37:26 pm »
Who's using https vs http?
Is that making a difference? (Not for me)

OOOOOH!
That's a good point---I just checked, and while the forums load the favicon over HTTP, they do NOT load it over HTTPS!

Chrome:
HTTPS:

HTTP:


Firefox:
HTTPS:

HTTP:


(Firefox loads neither, but that's likely because I've only visited the site for taking those pictures on it.)

As an aside: Is there any reason you guys aren't enforcing HTTPS connections to the site and/or using HSTS? Just curious.
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Re: why doesn't ulx forums have favicon
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2016, 03:03:58 am »
Firefox loads neither, but that's likely because I've only visited the site for taking those pictures on it.

I use Firefox as my main browser. No favicon.


Not on my Google Chrome either.


But my brother's Chromebook is displaying the favicon on the HTTP version of the forums. Odd! :P
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